Alieni: ipotesi e indizi. Siamo sempre stati soli?

[faro]

abbiamo anche una foto di porcaccia viaggiatore, col suo ingrandimento

[Luke Skywalker]

La scena complottista-ufologica-urbanlegend americana è floridissima. Da ragazzino mi leggevo tutti i forum del settore, spesso mi capitava di credere in alcune stronlate pazzesche. Oggi non è più così ma una visita ogni tanto me la faccio perchè:

1) certe teorie sono di una fantasia pazzesca. E' bello capire dove può arrrivare l'immaginazione umana
2) se ti serve ispirazione per scrivere qualcosa hai l'imbarazzo della scelta. Sono sicuro che gli sceneggiatori di Hollywood monitorano continuamente il tutto
3) impari tante cose che non sapevi. Alla fine si tratta di teorie o misteri legati a un evento storico, a un personaggio o a scienza e tecnologia. Non potete capire quante volte mi sono incuriosito e magari ho scoperto cose interessantissime
4) Ci sono racconti di episodi che gli utenti descrivono come realmente accaduti scritti benissimo e molto appassionanti. E' tutto finto, ma alla fine che cambia?
5) Certe volte è tutto così buffo e pazzesco che si ride pure

C'è un solo forum in italiano che riesce a creare quasi la stessa atmosfera: http://www.cosenascoste.com/forum/

Il top del top però è lo statunitense http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php

Qui c'è veramente di tutto, e i 18 milioni di messaggi lo testimoniano. Per Titor invece vi consiglio il forum del Time Travel Institute (quello dove lo stesso John scriveva).

[porcaccia]

Viaggio continuamente nel tempo, i miei libri di storia mi portano in tutte le epoche.
Sì, sono un crononauta.

[pisodinosauro]

Viaggio continuamente nel tempo, i miei libri di storia mi portano in tutte le epoche.
Sì, sono un crononauta.

no, sei l'eternauta....

[romolo1988]

john titor l'avevo scoperto su Voyager. Chiunque sia stato l'autore della bufala secondo me è stato un genio

[paz]

john titor l'avevo scoperto su Voyager. Chiunque sia stato l'autore della bufala secondo me è stato un genio

ma infatti

[zanardelli]

La discussione sta ignorando una Verità. Esistono solo tre dimensioni quantiche: 0, 1 e C.I.A.R.D.Y.

[Liouville89]

La scena complottista-ufologica-urbanlegend americana è floridissima. Da ragazzino mi leggevo tutti i forum del settore, spesso mi capitava di credere in alcune stronlate pazzesche. Oggi non è più così ma una visita ogni tanto me la faccio perchè:

1) certe teorie sono di una fantasia pazzesca. E' bello capire dove può arrrivare l'immaginazione umana
2) se ti serve ispirazione per scrivere qualcosa hai l'imbarazzo della scelta. Sono sicuro che gli sceneggiatori di Hollywood monitorano continuamente il tutto
3) impari tante cose che non sapevi. Alla fine si tratta di teorie o misteri legati a un evento storico, a un personaggio o a scienza e tecnologia. Non potete capire quante volte mi sono incuriosito e magari ho scoperto cose interessantissime
4) Ci sono racconti di episodi che gli utenti descrivono come realmente accaduti scritti benissimo e molto appassionanti. E' tutto finto, ma alla fine che cambia?
5) Certe volte è tutto così buffo e pazzesco che si ride pure

C'è un solo forum in italiano che riesce a creare quasi la stessa atmosfera: http://www.cosenascoste.com/forum/

Il top del top però è lo statunitense http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/index.php

Qui c'è veramente di tutto, e i 18 milioni di messaggi lo testimoniano. Per Titor invece vi consiglio il forum del Time Travel Institute (quello dove lo stesso John scriveva).

Anche nelle radio americane si trova qualcosa.
Ed anche negli USA le star sono i chiamatori.

[Luke Skywalker]

Anche nelle radio americane si trova qualcosa.
Ed anche negli USA le star sono i chiamatori.

Come no. Il mitico Coast to Coast AM che però non è più condotto da Art Bell. Il più grande show radiofonico sul paranormale della storia. Titor inviò fax anche lì. Una volta ho spulciato un elenco dei casi migliori che vennero presentati e c'era della roba incredibile. Sarebbe bello viaggiare di notte sulla Route 66 a bordo di un fuoristrada con la radio fissa su CtC. Si verrebbe a creare un'atmosfera mai vista.

[Luke Skywalker]

I casi di CtC. Li metto sotto spoiler perchè sono un botto:

[spoiler]John Lear, ufologist, was a frequent guest on Coast to Coast AM, and whom Art credits with getting him on the paranormal track for his show. Lear and Lazar have unveiled their infiltration and revelations of Area 51.
On March 23, 1994, Bell interviewed Neal Chase, who had predicted the nuking of New York City for that exact day. Bell became hysterical and lost his radio composure when he read the headline that came over the newswire just at the start of his interview with Chase that "Newark Had Been Nuked!" This headline referred to the exact report of the eye-witness account of a pilot flying into Newark seeing the giant Hiroshima and Nagasaki sized fireball and mushroom cloud from the Edison gas explosion. The pillar of fire—after the initial flash of the blast—reached over 1,000 feet (300 m) into the night sky.
In April 1996, Bell received a package of what would be known as "Art's Parts". These parts were allegedly pieces of debris from the 1947 Roswell UFO crash. Extensive analysis of the metals indicated they were made of an odd bismuth material.[citation needed]
On May 24, 1996, Bell interviewed William Luther Pierce, author of the highly controversial book, The Turner Diaries,[18] in which Pierce—writing under the pseudonym "Andrew Macdonald"—depicted a race war leading to the extermination of Jews, non-whites and gay people. In a remark that Bell later said nearly caused him to lose his temper on the air, Pierce denounced interracial marriage, calling white people who married non-whites "traitors to the white race"—apparently unaware that Bell himself was in an interracial marriage, as his then-wife, Ramona, was an Asian-American of Filipino descent.
One of Art Bell's Coast to Coast interviews occurred in 1997 with Mel Waters who discussed what is known as "Mel's Hole" in rural Washington State. The mysterious opening is said to be a fantastically deep vertical shaft which possesses extremely bizarre properties. No such hole has ever been physically located by anyone attempting to verify this story.[citation needed]
On May 23, 1997, Bell interviewed a man who called himself "Victor" who claimed to have been at S-4 (near Area 51) and was responsible for the release to the public of a nearly three-minute video commonly called the "alien interview." For almost two hours Victor described the ebe (extraterrestrial biological entities) program at S-4, verifying most of Bob Lazar's claims.
On September 11, 1997, Bell took a call from a frantic man claiming to be an ex-Area 51 employee who grew progressively more upset as the call wore on, culminating in the show's going temporarily off the air because of a satellite failure. The gentleman called back on April 28, 1998, admitting that the original call was fraudulent.

This incident formed the basis of the song "Faaip de Oiad" by the rock band Tool which features said interview (with Art Bell's part cut out) dubbed in over frantic drumming and buzzing static.
The interview was also sampled in Konkhra's track "Religion is a Whore", The Faceless's "Planetary Duality", experimental Texas quartet The Paper Chase's "It's Out There and It's Gonna Get You", MC Lars' "Lars Attacks!" and Sweet Valley's "So Serene" (around the 22:40 mark).

J.C. Webster III, or "J.C." – Webster began calling in 1996, and has since been on the air over 50 times. He purports to be a Baptist Revival preacher, and believes Art to be "the Devil's Mouthpiece". He has continued to call George Noory and guest hosts. Although some listeners have expressed a disbelief that someone like J.C. could exist, Art Bell and George Noory have repeated their beliefs that Webster is real, and is neither a "put-on" nor a "plant".
On the night of October 23, 1997, Art interviewed Harlot the Witch (Patsy).
In 1997, Cusco's Michael Holm, the group's leader, revealed that a song on Apurimac III – Nature Spirit Pride – "Pahrump-Big Water" was titled in recognition of Art Bell and Coast to coast.[19][not in citation given]
In 1998, Bell received two faxes from John Titor, a self-proclaimed time traveler from 2036, who made many fantastic predictions and discussed time travel.
In a 1997 show, Art bell interviewed a gentleman claiming to be a time traveler from the year 2063. He was known as Single Seven, a rank in the time travel unit he was in.
In the mid to late 1990s, a regular caller named "Fritz" would call in and give his view on various matters.
In the mid to late 1990s, another regular caller known only as "Charlie Liberal" used to call with his perspectives on current events.
"Bugs" – An aging farmer who has repeatedly told of his account of shooting and burying two Bigfoot creatures back in the 1970s in the Texas Panhandle, initially thinking they were bears. Bugs has mailed a map of the location of this "burial" to Art Bell, to be released to the public upon Bugs' death. During his first appearance in 1996, Bugs said he had taken a dozen Polaroid photos of the creatures he would be willing to send to Bell. None of the alleged photos have yet been made available.
A caller in 2000 named "Daniel Murray" claimed he was a Majestic agent from Downey, California.[citation needed]

This call served as the inspiration for the alternate reality game Majestic.[20]

In 2003, Chris Clements, a freelance writer with the Washington Post, called Bell to tell him he had evidence of a financial connection between the Bush family and the Bin Ladens. Clements went on further to tell of how his research showed that 9/11 may have been orchestrated by the Bush family and hinted at proof of a coming police state with secret prisons and the chipping of citizens. Clements promised to forward all of his information to Bell but it was reported[by whom?] that Clements died in a suspicious car crash in the weeks after his call.
In October 2003, Bell interviewed Temple of the Vampire representative Nemo. Nemo spoke about the Temple of the Vampire's beliefs and practices.
In February 2005, Bell received a call from a person calling himself "Oscar", proclaiming to be "the Son of Satan". Oscar had since also called George Noory, but disappeared after a June 2007 on-air confrontation with J.C.
In March 2005 a man also called about disturbing events on Kwajalein and Johnston Atoll about a weapon that only targeted certain people and could leave others unhurt. He indicated he had been on both islands (that are US military only) and that these weapons had been tested in 1993. Bell lost the call after another voice came on the line with a click saying: "Shelton, terminate the call from A-6." Art tried to call the man back but was unsuccessful.
In 2009, David Van Dyke, a photojournalist with Metro News Canada, called into Coast-to-Coast (guest-hosted by Art Bell that night) and warned listeners that Toronto would become a testing ground for police tactics and subverting citizens at a soon to be announced global summit. Weeks after the call Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that Toronto would play host to the G20 summit. Van Dyke, also a Toronto citizen, returned to the show after the announcement and declared that Toronto's downtown would be "stripped of everything not bolted down. Even trees and sticks will be removed, so that the oligarchy could not be touched." Van Dyke went missing shortly after the second call. Van Dyke resurfaced in mid-2010 following the G20 Summit in Toronto and was interviewed on local news channel CP24 while protesting outside a court hearing for G20 detainees. Van Dyke claimed he was held against his will in a stone-block room for "what felt like years" while being subjected to various psychological stress tactics. "German industrial metal music blasted frequently. A bright strobe light came on intermittently, and when it wasn't on a TV constantly played a loop of interracial porn," Van Dyke told CP24. He also claimed he was only fed raw steak and agents "dressed in pink bunny costumes" shouted anti-Marxist slogans at him. At this point the interview was abruptly ended by the reporter.[/spoiler]

Io credo che una cosa del genere fatta a Roma tirerebbe fuori momenti di trash pazzesco. Sarebbe da proporre a qualche editore locale.

[paz]

questo è l'ultimo messaggio, ed è del 2009.
ci dice che c'erano due john titor.
il mistero s'infittisce.
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[Luke Skywalker]

Sul forum del Time Travel Institute c'è un utente, un certo Darby, che ha partecipato alle famose discussioni nel 2001 e poi ha ricostruito per filo e per segno tutto il caso Titor. Sa praticamente tutto. Ho letto molti suoi post, tra l'altro si tratta di una persona coltissima, ma non sono mai riuscito a mettermi in contatto con lui perchè ho sempre avuto problemi con la registrazione sul sito.

[delta]

Io ho un ban permanente dal forum di nibiru

[totti1montella4]

Titor Puente


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Titor Puente


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grazie per il tuo prezioso contributo